Re: [PostgreSQL 10] default of hot_standby should be "on"?

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)jp(dot)fujitsu(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Huong Dangminh <huo-dangminh(at)ys(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Hiroshi Yanagisawa <hir-yanagisawa(at)ut(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>
Subject: Re: [PostgreSQL 10] default of hot_standby should be "on"?
Date: 2017-04-26 11:52:24
Message-ID: CABUevEwL3u0mUxzOTZMw1ay+JhjWcUvvqTyf2gZW8d2sbSJaow@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 07:33:27AM +0000, Tsunakawa, Takayuki wrote:
> > From: pgsql-hackers-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
> > > [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of Masahiko
> Sawada
> > > The idea of changing the default value seems good to me but I'm not
> sure
> > > it's good idea to change the default value now under the circumstances
> where
> > > we're focus on stabilization.
> > > Also we should update the document as well.
> > >
> >
> > We can consider like this: the OP found a usability problem as a result
> of PG 10 development, so we will fix it as a stabilization work.
>
> We did work in Postgres 10 to make replication simpler with better
> defaults. This would be part of that improvement.
>

+1. I definitely think we should do it, and 10 would be the time to do it.

The failure scenario is that a standby node will no longer work by default
*if* you have changed the master to minimal. But unless you have explicitly
dropped that one, it would work.

So I definitely think we should change that.

I wonder if we should also consider changing the standby error message to
be a WARNING instead of an ERROR. So that if you try to start up a standby
with hot_standby=on but master with wal_level=replica it would turn into a
cold standby.

We should change the default independently of that, I think, but it might
make sense to do both.

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Magnus Hagander
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