| From: | Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru> |
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| To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
| Cc: | Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Aleksander Alekseev <aleksander(at)tigerdata(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Chao Li <li(dot)evan(dot)chao(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker <ilmari(at)ilmari(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Add uuid_to_base32hex() and base32hex_to_uuid() built-in functions |
| Date: | 2026-03-26 08:32:41 |
| Message-ID: | 431D684B-ABE2-461D-AA26-E009D2630CEA@yandex-team.ru |
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> On 26 Mar 2026, at 04:40, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
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> I wonder whether this discovery puts enough of a hole in the
> value-proposition for base32hex that we should just revert
> this patch altogether. "It works except in some locales"
> isn't a very appetizing prospect, so the whole idea is starting
> to feel more like a foot-gun than a widely-useful feature.
To be precise, this discovery cast shadows on argument "[base32hex is ]lexicographically sortable format that preserves temporal ordering for UUIDv7". And, actually, any UUID. But I do not think it invalidates the argument completely.
It's taken from RFC[0], actually, that states:
One property with this alphabet, which the base64 and base32
alphabets lack, is that encoded data maintains its sort order when
the encoded data is compared bit-wise.
RFC does not give any other benefits.
Personally, I like that it's compact, visually better than base64, and RFC-compliant.
And IMO argument "base32hex is lexicographically sortable format that preserves ordering for UUID in C locale" is still very strong.
Though, there's a little footy shooty in last 3 words.
Best regards, Andrey Borodin.
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