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Re: Oracle 10g Express - any danger for Postgres?

From: Alex Turner <armtuk(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Wes Williams <wes_williams(at)fcbonline(dot)net>
Cc: Postgresql-General <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>,pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Oracle 10g Express - any danger for Postgres?
Date: 2005-10-31 16:50:29
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I assume they are probably thinking of a free for non-commercial use,
which is great and all, but I assume that like the majority of folks
here, I am using postgres very much for commercial use, and not just
to run my personal website!  So I would say it's not a big deal,
infact it's not even a small deal, it's really nothing.


On 10/31/05, Wes Williams <wes_williams(at)fcbonline(dot)net> wrote:
> I presume this thread was all brought about by the /. article
> 87
> According to the link provided in the /. article
> (, Oracle has *proposed* a
> free version by "year end".  Obviously this means that current download of
> Oracle 10g Express Edition is *not yet available under a free license.*
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
> [mailto:pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org]On Behalf Of
> Richard_D_Levine(at)raytheon(dot)com
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:55 AM
> To: nikolay(at)samokhvalov(dot)com
> Cc: Postgresql-General; pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Oracle 10g Express - any danger for Postgres?
> Highlights from the license:  My thoughts.  This is not free, not even as
> in beer.  Only good for a year.  No production use (which is more
> restrictive than no commercial use. IANAL)  You have to pay when they
> release it.
> Quotes (with my bolding)
> grants to you a no-charge trial license to use the pre-production beta
> version of the Oracle Database Express Edition  software, documentation and
> product training (the "Software")  provided to you by Oracle solely for
> evaluation purposes until January 31, 2006.   Either party may terminate
> the license for the Software at any time.  Upon termination, you shall
> cease using the Software.
> You may not use the Software for any commercial or production purpose.
> You shall not: d) disclose results of any benchmark tests of any Software
> to any third party without Oracle's prior written approval;
> if and when the Software is released in production, you may acquire
> licenses for the production version of the Software in accordance with
> Oracle's then standard licensing and pricing terms and conditions (which,
> at Oracle's sole discretion, may allow license of only some rather than all
> of the features of the Software).
> pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org wrote on 10/30/2005 01:24:52 PM:
> >
> >
> >
> > 'Oracle intends to release a free version of its database, a reaction
> > to the growing competitive pressure from low-end open-source
> > databases.'
> >
> > Your thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Nikolay
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