Re: Oracle 10g Express - any danger for Postgres?

From: Andrew Rawnsley <ronz(at)investoranalytics(dot)com>
To: Postgresql-General <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Oracle 10g Express - any danger for Postgres?
Date: 2005-10-31 17:07:21
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If you read the FAQ, you will see:

Oracle has announced an entry-level, small footprint starter database called
Oracle Database 10g Express Edition
(Oracle Database XE), which is:
Free to download
Free to develop & deploy
Free to distribute (including ISVs)

Oracle Database XE is free for runtime usage with the following limitations:
Supports up to 4GB of user data (in addition to Oracle system data)
Single instance only of Oracle Database XE on any server
Only uses and executes on one processor in any server
Can use up to 1GB RAM

Pretty limited. This is mostly a way for people to get hooked with it, or
for existing Oracle users who need a few rinky-dink instances alongside
bigger ones.

On 10/31/05 11:50 AM, "Alex Turner" <armtuk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> I assume they are probably thinking of a free for non-commercial use,
> which is great and all, but I assume that like the majority of folks
> here, I am using postgres very much for commercial use, and not just
> to run my personal website! So I would say it's not a big deal,
> infact it's not even a small deal, it's really nothing.
>
> Alex.
>
> On 10/31/05, Wes Williams <wes_williams(at)fcbonline(dot)net> wrote:
>> I presume this thread was all brought about by the /. article
>> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/31/0659254&tid=221&tid=1
>> 87
>>
>> According to the link provided in the /. article
>> (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5920796.html), Oracle has *proposed* a
>> free version by "year end". Obviously this means that current download of
>> Oracle 10g Express Edition is *not yet available under a free license.*
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
>> [mailto:pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org]On Behalf Of
>> Richard_D_Levine(at)raytheon(dot)com
>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:55 AM
>> To: nikolay(at)samokhvalov(dot)com
>> Cc: Postgresql-General; pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
>> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Oracle 10g Express - any danger for Postgres?
>>
>>
>> Highlights from the license: My thoughts. This is not free, not even as
>> in beer. Only good for a year. No production use (which is more
>> restrictive than no commercial use. IANAL) You have to pay when they
>> release it.
>>
>> Quotes (with my bolding)
>>
>> grants to you a no-charge trial license to use the pre-production beta
>> version of the Oracle Database Express Edition software, documentation and
>> product training (the "Software") provided to you by Oracle solely for
>> evaluation purposes until January 31, 2006. Either party may terminate
>> the license for the Software at any time. Upon termination, you shall
>> cease using the Software.
>>
>> You may not use the Software for any commercial or production purpose.
>>
>> You shall not: d) disclose results of any benchmark tests of any Software
>> to any third party without Oracle's prior written approval;
>>
>> if and when the Software is released in production, you may acquire
>> licenses for the production version of the Software in accordance with
>> Oracle's then standard licensing and pricing terms and conditions (which,
>> at Oracle's sole discretion, may allow license of only some rather than all
>> of the features of the Software).
>>
>> pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org wrote on 10/30/2005 01:24:52 PM:
>>
>>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/xe/index.html
>>> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5920796.html
>>>
>>> 'Oracle intends to release a free version of its database, a reaction
>>> to the growing competitive pressure from low-end open-source
>>> databases.'
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Nikolay
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