Re: PG 18 relnotes and RC1

From: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, corey(dot)huinker(at)gmail(dot)com, Erik Rijkers <er(at)xs4all(dot)nl>
Subject: Re: PG 18 relnotes and RC1
Date: 2025-09-18 19:05:52
Message-ID: 2fceccd0-a5c3-4d4d-bfd7-b5c6de6c3ab0@postgresql.org
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On 9/18/25 2:33 PM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
> On 9/18/25 2:19 PM, Nathan Bossart wrote:

>> Quick analysis of the differences:
>>
>>      Common:
>>      * AIO
>>      * skip scan
>>      * pg_upgrade
>>      * UUIDv7
>>      * virtual generated columns
>>      * OAuth
>>
>>      Only v1 (my patch):
>>      * OLD/NEW for RETURNING
>>      * temporal constraints
>>      * EXPLAIN enhancements
>>
>>      Only v2 (Jonathan's):
>>      * conflict logging
>>
>> While the EXPLAIN enhancements and conflict logging items seem like super
>> useful features, I can see how there might be disagreement over whether
>> they belong in the major features list.  I'm a little more surprised
>> about
>> the omission of OLD/NEW and temporal contraints in v2, though.
>>
>> That being said, I'm tempted to suggest we UNION the two lists, bikeshed
>> over the exact wording for a few hours, and then call it day...
>
> Let's hack on this together for a few and bring a proposal to the list.

Nathan & I hopped on a call to "pair program" on this. Given the point
that his patch had been available on the list for awhile with limited
public comments to date, we did the following:

* Kept everything except EXPLAIN enhancements and conflict logging. For
the former, a lot of this wasn't in the default EXPLAIN path. For the
latter, this was to respect the time period of the discussion.

* Did some minor wordsmithing and linking to help with overall
accessibility, including Erik's typo catch.

Many thanks to Nathan for pulling this together. Please see v3. Feedback
welcome.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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