| From: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> |
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| To: | Srinath Reddy Sadipiralla <srinath2133(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Mihail Nikalayeu <mihailnikalayeu(at)gmail(dot)com>, Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net> |
| Subject: | Re: Adding REPACK [concurrently] |
| Date: | 2026-03-31 18:23:57 |
| Message-ID: | 202603311819.3gvgmupluxh2@alvherre.pgsql |
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On 2026-Mar-31, Srinath Reddy Sadipiralla wrote:
> In this case, there's no circular wait. The deadlock detector never
> fires. REPACK simply queues behind the SELECT, eventually hits its
> lock_timeout, aborts and cleans up.Initially, I thought this cleanup
> was expected behavior. But after seeing your solution to protect
> REPACK from losing its transient table work, I thought it's "not
> expected".
Yeah. Keep in mind that REPACK could have been running for many hours
or even days before it reaches the point of acquiring its AEL lock to do
the final swap; and it may well be critical work. We do not want to
lose it. So whatever is waiting to obtain a lock on the table, or
already has a lock on the table, has to yield.
> If the goal is to prevent REPACK's work from being wasted, should we
> error out the backend that is making REPACK wait during the final swap
> phase? I am thinking of something conceptually similar to
> ResolveRecoveryConflictWithLock, actively cancelling the conflicting
> session to allow the AEL upgrade to proceed.
Something like that might be appropriate, yeah.
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Álvaro Herrera Breisgau, Deutschland — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
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