Re: Adding REPACK [concurrently]

From: Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>
To: Srinath Reddy Sadipiralla <srinath2133(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Mihail Nikalayeu <mihailnikalayeu(at)gmail(dot)com>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net>
Subject: Re: Adding REPACK [concurrently]
Date: 2026-03-31 18:22:33
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Srinath Reddy Sadipiralla <srinath2133(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 1:42 AM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> wrote:
>
> As for lock upgrade, I wonder if the best way to handle this isn't to
> hack the deadlock detector so that it causes any *other* process to die,
> if they detect that they would block on REPACK. Arguably there's
> nothing that you can do to a table while its undergoing REPACK
> CONCURRENTLY; any alterations would have to wait until the repacking is
> compelted. We can implement that idea simply enough, as shown in this
> crude prototype.
>
> After testing this, I observed that it solves the scenario where a query is waiting
> on REPACK. For example, if a DROP TABLE requests an AEL and queues
> behind REPACK's ShareUpdateExclusiveLock, the deadlock detector comes
> when REPACK tries to upgrade to AEL, killing the DROP to prevent the circular
> queue deadlock, But the case I originally mentioned [1] was the reverse: what
> happens if a transaction already holds a lock that conflicts with the upcoming
> AEL upgrade (e.g., an analytical SELECT or an idle-in-transaction holding an AccessShareLock),
> but isn't waiting on REPACK at all?
>
> In this case, there's no circular wait. The deadlock detector never fires. REPACK
> simply queues behind the SELECT, eventually hits its lock_timeout, aborts and
> cleans up.

Why should the user set non-zero lock_timeout before running REPACK?

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Antonin Houska
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