Re: So... you're all just going to ignore anyone who asks about the HUGE issues with pgAdmin 4?

From: Patrick Headley <pheadley(at)linxco-inc(dot)com>
To: pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: So... you're all just going to ignore anyone who asks about the HUGE issues with pgAdmin 4?
Date: 2017-06-15 18:07:21
Message-ID: fcbc5b35-5be7-e4a5-e27e-8dce65914718@linxco-inc.com
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It doesn't sound like anyone is ignoring the problem but some issues are
harder to fix than others. If pgAdmin4 isn't working for you, use
something else. No one is saying you have to use pgAdmin4.

While you are accusing many people of having something wrong in their
heads I have observed that you are the only one that is flipping out
over the issue. As I stated in a prior message, I was dissatisfied with
pgAdmin4 on Windows so I got pgAdmin3 for Windows and PostgreSQL 9.6
from another vendor that is maintaining pgAdmin3. No need to panic.
Still getting my work done. When pgAdmin4 works well (and it's getting
there and it's definitely not the worst performing software that I use
on a daily basis), I'll make the switch.

Another way of looking at the situation is that someone has to test the
software. It cannot be up to David alone. There are many people doing
this and not flipping out about the issues but simply presenting them to
David so they can be fixed. It's a process. No software is perfect on
every machine and platform before being released. There is no way for
David to test every possible scenario and he has explained that already.
It takes a community of cooperation to make it right.

I hope you can find a solution that works for you while David works out
the bugs in pgAdmin4.

*/Patrick Headley/*
Linx Consulting, Inc.
pheadley(at)linxco-inc(dot)com
(303) 916-5522
www.linxco-inc.com
On 06/15/2017 11:20 AM, David G. Johnston wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:05 AM, <grekloedlc(at)tutanota(dot)com
> <mailto:grekloedlc(at)tutanota(dot)com>>wrote:
>
> It doesn't seem possible to get through to you. Whatever you spent
> those one million dollars on, it sure as hell wasn't related to
> pgAdmin in any way. More like very heavy drugs, if you think this
> is even acceptable for pre-pre-pre-alpha software. It's literally
> *unusable*. You get it? UNUSABLE. Anyone who claims otherwise must
> have something wrong in their head.
>
> Are you just going to keep on this charade or actually fix the
> problem? Do I have to switch from PostgreSQL to something else
> just because the admin tool is broken beyond the point of being
> usable to anyone? This is insanity.
>
>
> ​There isn't a monopoly on GUI admin software for PostgresSQL. While
> it has its quirks I find PostgreSQL Maestro to be quite functional for
> my needs - at least the ones I don't solve by writing scripts and
> executing them via psql. The server is going to function the same no
> matter which external administration/client tools you choose to use.
>
> I rarely used pgAdmin3, I found it to be "too graphical" if that makes
> sense, and haven't tried pgAdmin4. My scanning of this mailing list
> leads me to believe what you are saying is reasonably accurate even if
> your tone is not: there are a number of active discussions on this
> very topic on this mailing list right now.
>
> David J.
>

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