From: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: The case for removing replacement selection sort |
Date: | 2017-09-07 21:38:43 |
Message-ID: | c0d847c0-ba37-2588-378e-22e77ec590b8@2ndquadrant.com |
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Hi,
On 08/31/2017 02:56 AM, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> Wow. Just to be clear, I am looking for the BEST case for replacement
>> selection, not the worst case. But I would have expected that case to
>> be a win for replacement selection, and it clearly isn't. I can
>> reproduce your results here.
>
> But I *was* trying to get a best case. That's why it isn't even worse.
> That's what the docs say the best case is, after all.
>
> This is the kind of thing that replacement selection actually did do
> better with on 9.6. I clearly remember Tomas Vondra doing lots of
> benchmarking, showing some benefit with RS with a work_mem of 8MB or
> less. As I said in my introduction on this thread, we weren't wrong to
> add replacement_sort_tuples to 9.6, given where things were with
> merging at the time. But, it does very much appear to create less than
> zero benefit these days. The picture changed.
>
Do we need/want to repeat some of that benchmarking on these patches? I
don't recall how much this code changed since those benchmarks were done
in the 9.6 cycle.
regards
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Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
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