From: | Christopher Browne <cbbrowne(at)acm(dot)org> |
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To: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Dreaming About Redesigning SQL |
Date: | 2003-10-03 21:39:03 |
Message-ID: | blkq9n$d9puv$4@ID-125932.news.uni-berlin.de |
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After takin a swig o' Arrakan spice grog, seunosewa(at)inaira(dot)com (Seun Osewa) belched out...:
> This is for relational database theory experts on one hand and
> imlementers of real-world alications on the other hand. If there was
> a chance to start again and design SQL afresh, for best
> cleaness/power/performance what changes would you make? What would
> _your_ query language (and the underlying database concept) look
> like?
There are two notable 'projects' out there:
1. There's Darwen and Date's "Tutorial D" language, defined as part
of their "Third Manifesto" about relational databases.
2. newSQL <http://newsql.sourceforge.net/>, where they are studying
two syntaxes, one based on Java, and one based on a
simplification (to my mind, oversimplification) of SQL.
The "newSQL" project suffers from their definition being something of
a "chip away everything that doesn't look like an elephant"
definition. They aren't defining, in "mathematical" terms, what their
language is supposed to be able to express; they are instead defining
a big grab-bag of minor syntactic features, and seem to expect that a
database system will emerge from that.
In contrast, "Tutorial D" is _all_ about mathematical definition of
what it is supposed to express, and the text is a tough read,
irrespective of other merits.
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