Re: Should we update the random_page_cost default value?

From: Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Tomas Vondra <tomas(at)vondra(dot)me>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Should we update the random_page_cost default value?
Date: 2025-10-06 08:54:03
Message-ID: a750a924ac8a1bf87ef19f9af6733f9a664180cf.camel@cybertec.at
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On Mon, 2025-10-06 at 01:53 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at> writes:
> > On Mon, 2025-10-06 at 01:29 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > > But if what
> > > we're trying to model is net resource demands, with an eye to
> > > minimizing the total system load not execution time of any one query,
> > > maybe we can continue to work with something close to what we've
> > > traditionally done.
>
> > Did anybody propose that?
>
> I just did ;-).  If we don't adopt a mindset along that line,
> then AIO is going to require some *radical* changes in the
> planner's I/O cost models.

I see your point, and actually the idea of the planner targeting
the lowest resource usage ist quite attractive. That is, in a
situation where you want to optimize throughput. I regularly
find myself advising users that if their CPU load is approaching
100%, they had better disable parallel query.

But I am afraid that that would pessimize plans for analytical
queries, where your sole goal is a low response time.

This is far from a serious proposal, but perhaps there could be
a parameter "optimizer_goal" with values "throughput", "response_time"
and "mixed" that determines the default value for other parameters...

Yours,
Laurenz Albe

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