Re: Upcoming Changes to News Server ...

From: Woodchuck Bill <bwr607(at)hotmail(dot)com>
To: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Upcoming Changes to News Server ...
Date: 2004-11-23 21:41:16
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pbk(at)patrickbkelly(dot)org (Patrick B Kelly) wrote in news:E55E257B-3D95-11D9-
BD24-000A958A3956(at)patrickbkelly(dot)org:

> On Nov 23, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:37:56 -0400 (AST), scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org
>> ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Due to recent action by Google concerning the
>>> comp.databases.postgresql.*
>>> hierarchy, we are going to make some changes that should satisfy just
>>> about everyone ... over the next 24hrs or so, traffic *to*
>>> comp.databases.postgresql.* from the mailing lists will cease and be
>>> re-routed to pgsql.* instead ... on our server (and we encourage
>>> others to
>>> do the same), the comp.* groups will be aliased to the new pgsql.*
>>> hierarchy, so that posts to the old groups will still get through ...
>>
>> So you're basically going to make it worse than it already was and to
>> hell with everyone who was working to correct it, right? We'll surely
>> block propigation with that setup.
>
> Marc appears to be the only one NOT making this situation worse. Let's
> review. Since Mike Cox's unsolicited attempt to "fix" a problems that
> he perceived, what has happened? The list has been deluged with
> countless angry process oriented messages filled with vitriol and
> devoid of any content regarding the purpose of this forum, we have been
> bombarded with profanity, and the lists have been dropped from google.
> This seems like it was a fool's errand from the beginning and Marc has
> done nothing but try to cooperate to the extent reasonable. That does
> not include jumping through every hoop that anyone holds up for him.
>
>>
>>>
>>> In order to improve propogation, as always, we welcome anyone wishing
>>> to
>>> carry these groups to email usenet(at)hub(dot)org to get added on as a direct
>>> peer ...
>>>
>> You're still trying to shove your list up USENet's ass instead of
>> doing it the proper way. Why is that?
>
> I will not speak for Marc but say that as a member of the mailing list,
> I think he does an excellent job of advocating the best interests of
> the postgres community and I support his decisions. You can make any
> accusations you like but we know what a good job Marc does and
> appreciate Marc's efforts on our behalf.

By helping the postgres community in the way you describe, he is screwing
over the Usenet community.

--

Bill

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