Re: Commitfest problems

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Mark Kirkwood <
mark(dot)kirkwood(at)catalyst(dot)net(dot)nz> wrote:

> On 19/12/14 20:48, Andres Freund wrote:
>
>> On 2014-12-18 10:02:25 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>
>>> I think a lot of hackers forget exactly how tender their egos are. Now I
>>> say
>>> this knowing that a lot of them will go, "Oh give me a break" but as
>>> someone
>>> who employs hackers, deals with open source AND normal people :P every
>>> single day, I can tell you without a single inch of sarcasm that petting
>>> egos is one of the ways you get things done in the open source (and
>>> really
>>> any male dominated) community.
>>>
>>
>> To me that's a bit over the top stereotyping.
>>
>>
> +1
>
> Having been mentioned one or two times myself - it was an unexpected "wow
> - cool" rather than a grumpy/fragile "I must be noticed" thing. I think
> some folk have forgotten the underlying principle of the open source
> community - it is about freely giving - time or code etc. The "there must
> be something in it for me me me" meme is - well - the *other* world view.
>
> However, doing crappy work and let's not be shy about it, there is NOTHING
>>> fun about reviewing someone else's code needs to have incentive.
>>>
>>
>> FWIW, I don't agree with this at all. Reviewing code can be quite
>> interesting - with the one constraint that the problem the patch solves
>> needs to be somewhat interesting. The latter is what I think gets many
>> of the more experienced reviewers - lots of the patches just solve stuff
>> they don't care about.
>>
>>
> Yeah, and also it helps if the patch addresses an area that you at least
> know *something* about - otherwise it is really hard to review in any
> useful way.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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I'm trying to follow this thread as much as I could but I could've missed a
part of it.

Merit/credits aside what would really help Postgres right now is a more
streamlined/modern (the only words I could come up with) development
process.

Using the mailing list for everything is alright, it works. But there is
lot of tools that could be used along it:
gerrit/gitlab/github/bitbucket/jira and other tools that do: pull requests,
code review and bugs (or any combination of them).

That'd reduce friction for new contributors and further development. These
tools are being used everywhere and I find hard to believe that PG can't
benefit from any of them.

--
Arthur Silva