| From: | Mark Kirkwood <mark(dot)kirkwood(at)catalyst(dot)net(dot)nz> |
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| To: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Torsten Zuehlsdorff <mailinglists(at)toco-domains(dot)de>, Jaime Casanova <jaime(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, Mark Cave-Ayland <mark(dot)cave-ayland(at)ilande(dot)co(dot)uk>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Commitfest problems |
| Date: | 2014-12-19 08:28:12 |
| Message-ID: | 5493E19C.7070200@catalyst.net.nz |
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On 19/12/14 20:48, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2014-12-18 10:02:25 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>> I think a lot of hackers forget exactly how tender their egos are. Now I say
>> this knowing that a lot of them will go, "Oh give me a break" but as someone
>> who employs hackers, deals with open source AND normal people :P every
>> single day, I can tell you without a single inch of sarcasm that petting
>> egos is one of the ways you get things done in the open source (and really
>> any male dominated) community.
>
> To me that's a bit over the top stereotyping.
>
+1
Having been mentioned one or two times myself - it was an unexpected
"wow - cool" rather than a grumpy/fragile "I must be noticed" thing. I
think some folk have forgotten the underlying principle of the open
source community - it is about freely giving - time or code etc. The
"there must be something in it for me me me" meme is - well - the
*other* world view.
>> However, doing crappy work and let's not be shy about it, there is NOTHING
>> fun about reviewing someone else's code needs to have incentive.
>
> FWIW, I don't agree with this at all. Reviewing code can be quite
> interesting - with the one constraint that the problem the patch solves
> needs to be somewhat interesting. The latter is what I think gets many
> of the more experienced reviewers - lots of the patches just solve stuff
> they don't care about.
>
Yeah, and also it helps if the patch addresses an area that you at least
know *something* about - otherwise it is really hard to review in any
useful way.
Cheers
Mark
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