Re: Is a modern build system acceptable for older platforms

From: Yuriy Zhuravlev <stalkerg(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj>
Cc: Catalin Iacob <iacobcatalin(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Is a modern build system acceptable for older platforms
Date: 2018-05-29 23:51:58
Message-ID: CANiD2e8o+5EKwBUC68dLiqfWxCrvHyEU=TZ97R2r44F41V5Qgw@mail.gmail.com
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> Arguing with people and telling them that they're wrong or (as you appear
> to be doing) that they're old and out of touch isn't going to make them any
> more likely to want to use your code.
>

You are totally wrong, I didn't it, especial called somebody "old".
Perhaps you think like this because I wrote next:

> Key developers will be changed by people with another experience and
> habits (and maybe younger).

In this context under "younger" I mean different experience are getting now
a new generation of developers. They don't know "news", "mailists", "bbc",
"fidonet", "IRC", "perl", "C" and true terminals, but they know "github",
"python", "C++", "Java", "gitter", "discord", "JS".
It's all this not a bad it's just obvious difference. Even more, I think
"old" experience better, but all this experience dictates development
styles and tools.

There are many projects I've spent weeks developing code for a feature that
> I thought was the business, only to have the maintainer and/or users say
> "no thanks": that's the spirit of open source.
>

I agree, I know it but also I still think change build process really need
for Postgres community for growing. At now, I can't see "no thanks".

I notice that you ignored the two other paragraphs of my email. I
> appreciate that you're finding this frustrating but selectively picking
> like that rarely helps a discussion progress beyond point-scoring.
>

Because, I agree with this obvious things and not understand how it tied
with our discussion. Looks like you understood my words in wrong key.
Sorry for that.

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