From: | Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | MauMau <maumau307(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: How can we expand PostgreSQL ecosystem? |
Date: | 2016-03-08 04:08:50 |
Message-ID: | CAMsr+YEioL5DEG0tDN5WT3Vap+cQEzKv8-pYinVeOeS2GiX-Ng@mail.gmail.com |
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On 7 March 2016 at 20:55, MauMau <maumau307(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> From: Craig Ringer
> --------------------------------------------------
> We could help ORMs solve the N+1 SELECTs problem and help them avoid
> transferring vast join projections unnecessarily. That'd make PostgreSQL
> pretty compelling for exactly the users we're mostly too busy dismissing to
> consider.
>
> I'd be interested in reaching out to some Hibernate/JPA and ActiveRecord
> folks about how the DB could help the ORM and have been meaning to explore
> this area for a while, but -ENOTIME. If anyone pursues it I'll be really
> interested in hearing how things go.
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> You have various ideas and experience, don't you?
> Are those ideas on ORMs beneficial exclusively to PostgreSQL or to all
> DBMSs? I don't know the structure of ORMs allows for improvements to be
> advantageous to a specific DBMS.
>
Most ORMs have dialect layers for query generation, DB-specific
customisations, etc.
Whether they're flexible enough to handle this sort of change - I don't
know. That's part of why I'd like to explore the ideas with ActiveRecord,
Hibernate, JPA WG, etc folks.
--
Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
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