Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)

From: Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Sehrope Sarkuni <sehrope(at)jackdb(dot)com>, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi(dot)haribabu(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)
Date: 2019-08-17 16:42:57
Message-ID: CALtqXTcZdqH7M9D4k-yNYSAVg+NrjubyEgdUri0_K0bVwuH-rA@mail.gmail.com
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On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 3:04 AM Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:47:37PM +0200, Antonin Houska wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> >
> > > I have seen no one present a clear description of how anything beyond
> > > all-cluster encryption would work or be secure. Wishing that were not
> > > the case doesn't change things.
> >
> > Since this email thread has grown a lot and is difficult to follow, it
> might
> > help if we summarized various approaches on the wiki, with their pros and
> > cons, and included some links to the corresponding emails in the
> > archive. There might be people who would like think about the problems
> but
> > don't have time to read the whole thread. Overview of the pending
> problems of
> > particular approaches might be useful for newcomers, but also for people
> who
> > followed only part of the discussion. I mean an overview of the storage
> > problems; the key management seems to be less controversial.
> >
> > If you think it makes sense, I can spend some time next week on the
> > research. However I'd need at least an outline of the approaches proposed
> > because I also missed some parts of the thread.
>
> I suggest we schedule a voice call and I will go over all the issues and
> explain why I came to the conclusions listed. It is hard to know what
> level of detail to explain that in an email, beyond what I have already
> posted on this thread. The only other options is to read all the emails
> _I_ sent on the thread to get an idea.
>
> +1 for voice call, bruce we usually have a weekly TDE call. I will include
you in
that call. Currently, in that group are
moon_insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp,
sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com,
shawn(dot)wang(at)highgo(dot)ca,
ahsan(dot)hadi(at)highgo(dot)ca,
ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com

I am able to do that for others as well.
>
> --
> Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> http://momjian.us
> EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com
>
> + As you are, so once was I. As I am, so you will be. +
> + Ancient Roman grave inscription +
>

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Ibrar Ahmed

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