Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Sehrope Sarkuni <sehrope(at)jackdb(dot)com>, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi(dot)haribabu(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)
Date: 2019-08-16 22:04:39
Message-ID: 20190816220439.GA32675@momjian.us
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On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:47:37PM +0200, Antonin Houska wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
>
> > I have seen no one present a clear description of how anything beyond
> > all-cluster encryption would work or be secure. Wishing that were not
> > the case doesn't change things.
>
> Since this email thread has grown a lot and is difficult to follow, it might
> help if we summarized various approaches on the wiki, with their pros and
> cons, and included some links to the corresponding emails in the
> archive. There might be people who would like think about the problems but
> don't have time to read the whole thread. Overview of the pending problems of
> particular approaches might be useful for newcomers, but also for people who
> followed only part of the discussion. I mean an overview of the storage
> problems; the key management seems to be less controversial.
>
> If you think it makes sense, I can spend some time next week on the
> research. However I'd need at least an outline of the approaches proposed
> because I also missed some parts of the thread.

I suggest we schedule a voice call and I will go over all the issues and
explain why I came to the conclusions listed. It is hard to know what
level of detail to explain that in an email, beyond what I have already
posted on this thread. The only other options is to read all the emails
_I_ sent on the thread to get an idea.

I am able to do that for others as well.

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