Re: BUG #14207: A little is lacking to be the most advanced

From: "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: ugostray(at)list(dot)ru
Cc: "pgsql-bugs(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-bugs(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: BUG #14207: A little is lacking to be the most advanced
Date: 2016-06-22 12:32:39
Message-ID: CAKFQuwaijY-p3WJw7xPcEWgie_rGyugna3oHDdKusHQdYOpbVQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:14 PM, <ugostray(at)list(dot)ru> wrote:

> The following bug has been logged on the website:
>
> Bug reference: 14207
> Logged by: Eugene Quanger
> Email address: ugostray(at)list(dot)ru
> PostgreSQL version: 9.4.4
> Operating system: Win7Pro64
> Description:
>
>
​Not a bug.​

Please add AFTER to alter table add column syntax.

I presume you want us to do more than just add the syntax...​

Of course all the columns
> should be listed in insert statement and stuff, but sometimes(as for me
> it's
> all the time) for human being, who read the database with his eyes it is
> comfortable to have columns in certain order, the column order doesn't
> matter only for the machine. I moved to PostgreSQL from MySQL and I really
> miss this feature.

The feature to separate physical and logical column order does have some
demand.​

> I thought "most advanced" is meant to suit all users.
>

​The lack of a single capability another open source database has does not
make us less advanced. You need to look at the totality of the offering.
While your desire is understandable your point-of-view on this is very
biased.​

Demand should create supply.

There's this thing called "critical mass". A demand of "one" usually
doesn't create supply. Unless, of course, that one person is willing to
pay the thousands of dollars necessary to see that their demand is supplied
- or do it themselves.

Creating another table with additional column
> and re-inserting all the data from old table to a new one is not a very
> elegant solution. I can't help disliking PostgreSQL because of that.

​You are entitled to your opinion. Compared to everything else PostgreSQL
does well I don't find this lack of this particular feature a detraction.​

What's
> wrong if you will implement a feature that will make people to like this DB
> Engine even more! It's trifle but very pleasing!
>

​Its not "trifle" otherwise it would have already​ been done (see comment
about existing demand). You are welcome to comb the archives on -hackers
(and maybe -general) if you like to review past discussions on the topic
instead of just taking my word.

> And by the way I also miss SHOW CREATE TABLE(I know how to workaround with
> this, but a small shortcut that you always remember and can use it in
> between is also trifle but very pleasing. It's like you say to your home
> robot - "get me cuppa coffee", and don't care 'bout anything you can be
> sure
> he'll get it done)
>

​Noted.

David J.

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