Re: scary patch contest

From: Joshua Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: scary patch contest
Date: 2026-09-07 16:36:29
Message-ID: CAJvJg-TDxNL+HWm27N4h2_O8wZ=7YapGcdcbpPyYbpWgUuwS=g@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2026 at 12:47:09PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> We know we will have to have another beta to test after removing
> multiple features.
>
> It feels we are in an unprecedented situation here.

It is and importantly, this speaks to confidence in the release.

With the number of reverts being discussed, confidence in this release
(whether we revert the features or not) is lower.

Instead, I propose we shift the release to Spring of 2027. This will
help in a number of ways:

1. Allow the features to mature and make a deterministic decision
about their quality over time.

2. If we treat it as the new timeline, we remove a long-standing issue
with the development cycle: Our testing window is in summer.

I have not had any customer tell me they are blocked, or "needing" 19.
Heck, most people don't even run 18 so why are we in such a hurry?

I would rather have a late 19 than all these great features and hard
work gutted.

JD

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