Re: Bypassing Directory Ownership Check in PostgreSQL 16.6 with Secure z/OS NFS (AT-TLS)

From: Amol Inamdar <amol(dot)aai(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at>, pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Bypassing Directory Ownership Check in PostgreSQL 16.6 with Secure z/OS NFS (AT-TLS)
Date: 2025-07-15 11:36:29
Message-ID: CAGOe9RirtoXtMJhejo4_V+Si83+c4gfM_E-DH9WqaEBJ9SnfiA@mail.gmail.com
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Thanks Tom and Laurenz for the explanation.
Let me try out a few things and get back to you if needed.

Thanks,
Amol

On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 7:37 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:

> Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at> writes:
> > It is not a good idea to have a mount point be the data directory.
>
> ^^^ This. ^^^
>
> That is primarily for safety reasons: if for some reason the
> filesystem gets dismounted, or hasn't come on-line yet during
> a reboot, you do not want Postgres to be able to write on the
> underlying mount-point directory. There is a sobering tale
> in this old thread:
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/41BFAB7C.5040108%40joeconway.com
>
> Now it didn't help any that they were using a start script that
> would automatically run initdb if it didn't see a data directory
> where expected. But even without that, you are in for a world of
> hurt if the mount drops while the server is running and the server
> has any ability to write on the underlying storage; it will think
> whatever it was able to write is safely down on disk. To prevent
> that, the server must not have write permissions on the mount
> point, which dictates making a separate data directory (with
> different ownership/permissions) just below the mount.
>
> Do not bypass that ownership/permissions check. It is there
> for very good reasons.
>
> regards, tom lane
>

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-regards
Amol

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