| From: | Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Chao Li <li(dot)evan(dot)chao(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Improve logical replication usability when tables lack primary keys |
| Date: | 2025-12-15 03:28:20 |
| Message-ID: | CAFiTN-ucvk8JOiLvjii6VXar6nYJvCQDgzp8_4v55yweUmzdzw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 6:11 PM Chao Li <li(dot)evan(dot)chao(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> Hi Amit,
>
> Thanks for asking.
>
> > On Nov 11, 2025, at 19:18, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 1:36 PM Chao Li <li(dot)evan(dot)chao(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >>
> >> * BACKGROUND
> >>
> >> This requirement comes from several users operating large deployments, particularly in HIS (Hospital Information Systems). The situation can be summarized as follows:
> >>
> >> - A central DB operations team maintains the main database and configures logical replication for all tables.
> >> - Multiple third-party application vendors are allowed to create new tables in that database.
> >> - Some of these newly created tables lack a primary key. Since logical replication with `REPLICATION IDENTITY DEFAULT` requires a primary key, such tables silently fail to replicate.
> >> - The DB operations team must then spend significant effort identifying the affected tables and correcting them manually.
> >>
> >
> > Can you share an example of how we silently fail to replicate? Won't
> > in such cases UPDATE/DELETE will anyway raise an ERROR?
> >
>
> Yes, UPDATE/DELETE will fail. That’s the easy case to expose the error. Actually my patch will allow the update/delete.
>
> However, some tables, like dictionary tables, they are important, but don’t have much update/delete, they may silently fail to replicate.
But other than UPDATE/DELETE for what operation we need RI, I mean
INSERT would work without any RI and UPDATE/DELETE will fail on the
publisher itself without setting RI, so can you explain the exact case
where it will silently fail to replicate?
--
Regards,
Dilip Kumar
Google
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