| From: | Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Japin Li <japinli(at)hotmail(dot)com>, surya poondla <suryapoondla4(at)gmail(dot)com>, SATYANARAYANA NARLAPURAM <satyanarlapuram(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: synchronized_standby_slots behavior inconsistent with quorum-based synchronous replication |
| Date: | 2026-04-07 10:26:23 |
| Message-ID: | CAE9k0P=9Kbk1-FB6ugg8a7nLxHkN1SFQbbRe8-tMjZwYHrXadw@mail.gmail.com |
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Hi,
On Tue, Apr 7, 2026 at 11:20 AM Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2026 at 9:04 AM shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I see your point. I agree that using wal_receiver_status_interval for
> > this test may not be a reliable way. Can we attempt using
> > pg_wal_replay_pause() on standby and then checking
> > wait_event=WaitForStandbyConfirmation with backend_type=walsender on
> > primary? Or do you see any issues in this approach that I might be
> > overlooking?
> >
>
> Yes, I think we can make use of the WAL replay pause/resume mechanism.
> This seems like the right approach, as it gives us a more controlled
> and deterministic way to validate the lagging behavior.
>
Looking at 049_wait_for_lsn.pl (the test case you referenced), it
explicitly stops the WAL receiver by setting primary_conninfo to an
empty string, rather than just pausing WAL replay. Using
pg_wal_replay_pause() alone only halts replay; the WAL receiver
continues running, keeps receiving WAL, and sends feedback/status to
the primary. That feedback is sufficient to advance restart_lsn on the
standby’s slot, which would violate the restart_lsn < wait_for_lsn
condition inside StandbySlotsHaveCaughtup(), which is not what we
want.
This leads to the question: can we construct a realistic test case
where a failover standby remains active (WAL receiver running) while
its restart_lsn is still genuinely lagging and consistently so? This
likely needs further exploration.
--
With Regards,
Ashutosh Sharma.
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