From: | Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski <me(at)komzpa(dot)net> |
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To: | adambrusselback(at)gmail(dot)com |
Cc: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alexander Korotkov <a(dot)korotkov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)jp(dot)fujitsu(dot)com, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: zheap: a new storage format for PostgreSQL |
Date: | 2018-11-18 10:12:44 |
Message-ID: | CAC8Q8tJwMOqJEMJTr7k=0tOohvDbfNxvcdsKwhgF8AO1zvi9VA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 8:51 AM Adam Brusselback <adambrusselback(at)gmail(dot)com>
wrote:
> > I don't know how much what I write on this thread is read by others or
> how useful this is for others who are following this work
>
> I've been following this thread and many others like it, silently soaking
> it up, because I don't feel like i'd have anything useful to add in most
> cases. It is very interesting seeing the development take place though, so
> just know it's appreciated at least from my perspective.
>
I'm also following the development and have hopes about it going forward.
Not much low-level details I can comment on though :)
In PostGIS workloads, UPDATE table SET geom = ST_CostyFunction(geom,
magicnumber); is one of biggest time-eaters that happen upon initial load
and clean up of your data. It is commonly followed by CLUSTER table using
table_geom_idx; to make sure you're back at full speed and no VACUUM is
needed, and your table (usually static after that) is more-or-less
spatially ordered. I see that zheap can remove the need for VACUUM, which
is a big win already. If you can do something that will allow reorder of
tuples according to index happen during an UPDATE that rewrites most of
table, that would be a game changer :)
Another story is Visibility Map and Index-Only Scans. Right now there is a
huge gap between the insert of rows and the moment they are available for
index only scan, as VACUUM is required. Do I understand correctly that for
zheap this all can be inverted, and UNDO can become "invisibility map" that
may be quite small and discarded quickly?
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Darafei Praliaskouski
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