From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: UNDO and in-place update |
Date: | 2016-11-25 00:44:42 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoYBgvJE6SchMbS7v1X2SLC1=BipquRs0P47d8zpmtyRvg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> I think that the whole emphasis on whether and to what degree this is
>> like Oracle is somewhat misplaced. I would look at it a different
>> way. We've talked many times over the years about how PostgreSQL is
>> optimized for aborts. Everybody that I've heard comment on that issue
>> thinks that is a bad thing.
>
>
> again this depends on usage - when you have a possibility to run VACUUM,
> then this strategy is better.
>
> The fast aborts is one pretty good feature for stable usage.
>
> Isn't possible to use UNDO log (or something similar) for VACUUM? ROLLBACK
> should be fast, but
> VACUUM can do more work?
I think that in this design we wouldn't use VACUUM at all. However,
if what you are saying is that we should try to make aborts
near-instantaneous by pushing UNDO actions into the background, I
agree entirely. InnoDB already does that, IIUC.
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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