| From: | Jeremy Schneider <schneider(at)ardentperf(dot)com> |
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| To: | Sami Imseih <samimseih(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
| Subject: | Re: another autovacuum scheduling thread |
| Date: | 2025-11-12 23:51:13 |
| Message-ID: | AFC199A4-423E-4B9C-A6CF-F8EE2163B2C5@ardentperf.com |
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> On Nov 12, 2025, at 5:10 PM, Sami Imseih <samimseih(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
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>
>>
>> I do think re-prioritization is worth considering, but IMHO we should leave
>> it out of phase 1. I think it's pretty easy to reason about one round of
>> prioritization being okay. The order is completely arbitrary today, so how
>> could ordering by vacuum-related criteria make things any worse?
>
> While it’s true that the current table order is arbitrary, that arbitrariness
> naturally helps distribute vacuum work across tables of various sizes
> at a given time
>
> The proposal now is by design forcing all the top bloated table, that
> will require more I/O to vacuum to be vacuumed at the same time,
> by all workers. Users may observe this after they upgrade and wonder
> why their I/O profile changed and perhaps slowed others non-vacuum
> related processing down. They also don't have a knob to go back to
> the previous behavior.
>
> Of course, this behavior can and will happen now, but with this
> prioritization, we are forcing it.
>
> Is this a concern?
It’s still possible to tune the cost delay, the number of autovacuum workers, etc - if someone needs to manage too much autovacuum I/O concurrency and dialing it back down a little bit. I think that’s sufficient
-Jeremy
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