Re: Vote on Windows installer links

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, pgsql-advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Vote on Windows installer links
Date: 2009-07-10 16:07:41
Message-ID: 937d27e10907100907h22f04f31v4898e075ff6dafaa@mail.gmail.com
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2009/7/10 Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>:
>
> Stop what? Stop asking for something that a significant number and a
> clear majority of people have agreed is desirable? Why would I? I think
> the companies concerned should consider stopping.

A clear majority of those that answered +/-1 perhaps. If you look at
the people that decided to express themselves more fully, you will see
an entirely different picture, though I note that you said from the
outset you weren't going to count those that recognised this isn't a
black and white issue.

Even putting that aside, your question on which people voted was so
open-ended that you cannot possibly infer anything useful from it.
People were voting on whether they would like to see something change,
if a reasonable alternative could be found.

Do you have an alternative you believe to be reasonable to all
concerned, *and* is feasible?

I suspect you will say remove the 'Packaged by' logo from the
installers and host them on postgresql.org, but like 2ndQuadrant,
EnterpriseDB is not a charity. Asking the management to provide
packages that all told, almost certainly cost well in excess of $100K+
per year to maintain in terms of hardware, people and supporting
infrastructure without any benefit is simply insane. It's no different
from me demanding you spend your time developing code without seeking
sponsorship. It's one thing to do so as a hobbyist on your own time,
but another thing entirely to do so as part of a successful business
model.

And for the record, I have no idea if our management share my view
above. To me, it just seems like common sense.

--
Dave Page
EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com

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