From: | "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io>, Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com> |
Cc: | Chris Travers <chris(dot)travers(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, "pgsql-generallists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-advocacy(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Code of Conduct plan |
Date: | 2018-09-14 14:19:59 |
Message-ID: | 748e540e-20df-13f9-d233-586106d8b9c0@commandprompt.com |
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On 09/14/2018 06:59 AM, Robert Eckhardt wrote:
>
>>> I really have to object to this addition:
>>> "This Code is meant to cover all interaction between community members,
>>> whether or not it takes place within postgresql.org <http://postgresql.org>
>>> infrastructure, so long as there is not another Code of Conduct that takes
>>> precedence (such as a conference's Code of Conduct)."
>>
>> I second that objection. It is not in PGDG's remit to cure the world, for
>> whatever form of cure you ascribe to. This is especially true as 'community
>> member' has no strict definition.
> I understand the concern, however, if you look at how attacks happen
> it is frequently through other sites. Specifically under/poorly
> moderated sites. For specific examples, people who have issues with
> people on Quora will frequently go after them on Facebook and Twitter.
Yes but are we to be the School Principal for the world?
> these aren't a solution looking for a problem. If we just want to look
> at the clusterfuck that is happening in the reddis community right now
> we can see conversations spilling onto twitter and into ad hominem
> vitriol.
Sure and that is unfortunate but isn't it up to the individual to deal
with it through appropriate channels for whatever platform they are on?
All of these platforms are:
1. Voluntary to use
2. Have their own Terms of Use and complaint departments
3. If it is abuse there are laws
I agree that within Postgresql.org we must have a professional code of
conduct but the idea that an arbitrary committee appointed by an
unelected board can decide the fate of a community member based on
actions outside of the community is a bit authoritarian don't you think?
JD
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