Re: SCRAM authentication, take three

On 4/11/17 01:10, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> That question won't arise in practice. Firstly, if the server can do
> scram-sha-256-plus, it presumably can also do scram-sha-512-plus. Unless
> there's a change in the way the channel binding works, such that the
> scram-sha-512-plus variant needs a newer version of OpenSSL or
> something. Secondly, the user's pg_authid row will contain a
> SCRAM-SHA-256 or SCRAM-SHA-512 verifier, not both, so that will dictate
> which one to use.

Right. So putting the actual password method in pg_hba.conf isn't going
to be useful very often.

I think the most practical thing that the user wants in pg_hba.conf is
"best password method supported by what is in pg_authid". This is
currently spelled "md5", which is of course pretty weird. And it will
become weirder over time.

I think we want to have a new keyword in pg_hba.conf for that, one which
does not indicate any particular algorithm or method (so not "scram" or
"sasl").

We could use "password". If we think that "md5" can mean md5-or-beyond,
then maybe "password" can mean password-or-md5-or-beyond.

Or otherwise a completely new word.

We also want to give users/admins a way to phase out old methods or set
some policy. We could either make a global GUC setting
password_methods='md5 scram-sha-256' and/or make that an option in
pg_hba.conf past the method field.

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