From: | "Gavin M(dot) Roy" <gmr(at)myyearbook(dot)com> |
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To: | "Andrew Sullivan" <ajs(at)crankycanuck(dot)ca> |
Cc: | pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: drupal.org MySQL database issues |
Date: | 2007-05-17 20:52:34 |
Message-ID: | 5b599cc10705171352kcdb2b50x4b8e9b90730e239@mail.gmail.com |
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I think for one, mysql uses tables for all of its access control. Coding
plesk/cpanel to modify pg_hba.conf and rehup postgres would take a bit more
work, I would imagine.
Do we really want to pursue making PostgreSQL easier to admin for the
non-system admin? Cpanel and plesk and like tools are pretty far down the
list of important things to support or code for.
On 5/17/07, Andrew Sullivan <ajs(at)crankycanuck(dot)ca> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 03:40:04PM -0400, Joshua Kramer wrote:
> > Right, but if someone with PG and PHP skills put forth some effort to
> make
> > Plesk / CPanel play well with PG, then the marketing efforts would be
> that
> > much easier and the use of PG would probably increase. That's all that
> is
> > being said here.
>
> I understand that. But if the community is to take the argument
> seriously, someone needs to say what "play well" means there. So far
> I keep hearing that it doesn't, but only Robert Treat has suggested
> any meaningful detail about what that means. Is that all we're
> saying, that remote administration needs to be better?
>
> If so, I would suggest that a worthy project would be something like
> pg_remote_hand_daemon or something, which would be an optional
> component that you could use to do remote control of a postgres
> server. All the commands would go through the daemon, and it would
> be responsible for communicating with the clients (you do it this way
> to isolate the places where you have to work on the security model).
> Then you have it perform the configuration tasks on the postgresql
> node the way a human might do it -- alter the config file, SIGHUP,
> &c. (This is if you want humans manually changing your database
> systems, which I don't. That's what things like cfengine were
> invented to stop.)
>
> A
>
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