Re: Commitfest problems

On 17.12.2014 20:00, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Jaime Casanova (jaime(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com) wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It has been proposed that we do a general list of people at the bottom
>>> of the release notes who helped review during that cycle. That would
>>> be less intrusive and possibly a good idea, but would we credit the
>>> people who did a TON of reviewing? Everyone who reviewed even one
>>> patch? Somewhere in between? Would committers be excluded because "we
>>> just expect them to help" or included because credit is important to
>>> established community members too? To what extent would this be
>>> duplicative of http://www.postgresql.org/community/contributors/ ?
>>
>> Not much really, I tried to get my name on that list a couple of years
>> ago, when i reviewed more than i do now, and never got it.
>> And while my name is in a couple commit messages, that is a lot harder
>> to show to people...
>
> Having your name in a list of other names at the bottom of the release
> notes page, without any indication of what you helped with, would work
> better? Perhaps it would but I tend to doubt it.

Out of my personal experience in Germany: yes, it helps. It is not very
logical, but many people need a "simple way" (Website against git log)
to "see" something.

(I've rarely seen that something like that is considered not trustable
even if there are strong indications that its faked.)

But i think it is a good point that the release notes should not become
to big.

>> you know, it's kind of frustrating when some not-yet customers ask for
>> certificated engineers, and there isn't any official (as in "from
>> community") certificate so you need to prove you're a contributor so
>> let's see this random commit messages...
>
> Another thought I had was to suggest we consider *everyone* to be a
> contributor and implement a way to tie together the mailing list
> archives with the commit history and perhaps the commitfest app and make
> it searchable and indexed on some website. eg:
>
> contributors.postgresql.org/sfrost
> - Recent commits
> - Recent commit mentions
> - Recent emails to any list
> - Recent commitfest app activity
> - Recent wiki page updates
> ...
>
> Ideally with a way for individuals to upload a photo, provide a company
> link, etc, similar to what the existing Major Contributors have today.
> Obviously, this is not a small task to develop and there is some risk of
> abuse (which I expect the other folks on the infra team will point out
> and likely tar and feather me for suggesting this at all..) but it might
> be along the same lines as Bruce's PgLife..

That's an interesting idea. I'm not convinced that this is the best
solution, but i would help, if community thinks this should be implemented.

Greetings,
Torsten