Re: Avoid orphaned objects dependencies, take 3

From: Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>
To: Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Roman Eskin <r(dot)eskin(at)arenadata(dot)io>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Alexander Lakhin <exclusion(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: Avoid orphaned objects dependencies, take 3
Date: 2026-06-03 18:08:13
Message-ID: 5315d15a42109297259d1a3264ad09e363eb98df.camel@j-davis.com
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On Mon, 2026-06-01 at 09:21 +0000, Bertrand Drouvot wrote:
> Now that we avoid orphaned objects dependencies, I resumed working on
> Robert's
> concern about the TOCTOU window where a REVOKE could land between the
> original
> permission check and the dependency recording.
>
> Based on our discussion during PGConf.dev, PFA a new patch that uses
> the same
> approach as RangeVarGetRelidExtended(): record
> SharedInvalidMessageCounter at the
> time of the original aclcheck, then before locking compare the
> current counter to
> the saved value. If it changed, recheck permission before acquiring
> the lock.
> After the lock wait, if more invalidations arrived, release and
> retry.

RangeVarGetRelidExtended() coordinates three things:

- name lookup
- lock
- ACL check

whereas recheckAclAndLock() only coordinates the latter two. That means
there can still be some strange failures, like:

-- Session 1
BEGIN;
DROP SCHEMA s2;

-- Session 2
SET search_path=s2, s1;
CREATE FUNCTION f() RETURNS INT LANGUAGE plpgsql AS
$$ BEGIN RETURN 42; END; $$;

-- Session 1
COMMIT;

-- Session 2
ERROR: referenced schema was concurrently dropped

even though no schema was actually referenced in the query, and a retry
of the transaction successfully creates the function in s1. Is that
expected?

Regards,
Jeff Davis

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