Re: Code of Conduct plan

From: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
To: Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io>
Cc: Chris Travers <chris(dot)travers(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, "pgsql-generallists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, pgsql-advocacy(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct plan
Date: 2018-09-14 14:13:38
Message-ID: 4c2e4fbb-0834-5625-2c2c-fc77af2bdf28@aklaver.com
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On 9/14/18 6:59 AM, Robert Eckhardt wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Adrian Klaver
> <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com> wrote:
>> On 9/14/18 1:31 AM, Chris Travers wrote:

>>>
>>> I really have to object to this addition:
>>> "This Code is meant to cover all interaction between community members,
>>> whether or not it takes place within postgresql.org <http://postgresql.org>
>>> infrastructure, so long as there is not another Code of Conduct that takes
>>> precedence (such as a conference's Code of Conduct)."
>>
>>
>> I second that objection. It is not in PGDG's remit to cure the world, for
>> whatever form of cure you ascribe to. This is especially true as 'community
>> member' has no strict definition.
>
> I understand the concern, however, if you look at how attacks happen
> it is frequently through other sites. Specifically under/poorly
> moderated sites. For specific examples, people who have issues with
> people on Quora will frequently go after them on Facebook and Twitter.
>
> these aren't a solution looking for a problem. If we just want to look
> at the clusterfuck that is happening in the reddis community right now
> we can see conversations spilling onto twitter and into ad hominem
> vitriol.

Ask yourself, if this was a government agency tracking your speech
across platforms would you be as approving? Personally I find the whole
thing creepy.

>
> My $0.02
> -- Rob Eckhardt
>

>> Adrian Klaver
>> adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com
>>
>

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Adrian Klaver
adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com

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