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Re: SSI patch version 14

From: Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: Kevin Grittner <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>
Cc: simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com, markus(at)bluegap(dot)ch, drkp(at)csail(dot)mit(dot)edu, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: SSI patch version 14
Date: 2011-02-08 19:01:38
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On 08.02.2011 18:14, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> I wrote:
>> The multiplier of 10 PredXactList structures per connection is
>> kind of arbitrary.  It affects the point at which information is
>> pushed to the lossy summary, so any number from 2 up will work
>> correctly; it's a matter of performance and false positive rate.
>> We might want to put that on a GUC and default it to something
>> lower.
> If the consensus is that we want to add this knob, I can code it up
> today.  If we default it to something low, we can knock off a large
> part of the 2MB increase in shared memory used by SSI in the default
> configuration.  For those not using SERIALIZABLE transactions the
> only impact is that less shared memory will be reserved for
> something they're not using.  For those who try SERIALIZABLE
> transactions, the smaller the number, the sooner performance will
> start to drop off under load -- especially in the face of a
> long-running READ WRITE transaction.  Since it determines shared
> memory allocation, it would have to be a restart-required GUC.
> I do have some concern that if this defaults to too low a number,
> those who try SSI without bumping it and restarting the postmaster
> will not like the performance under load very much.  SSI performance
> would not be affected by a low setting under light load when there
> isn't a long-running READ WRITE transaction.

Hmm, comparing InitPredicateLocks() and PredicateLockShmemSize(), it 
looks like RWConflictPool is missing altogether from the calculations in 

I added an elog to InitPredicateLocks() and PredicateLockShmemSize(), to 
print the actual and estimated size. Here's what I got with 
max_predicate_locks_per_transaction=10 and max_connections=100:

LOG:  shmemsize 635467
LOG:  actual 1194392
WARNING:  out of shared memory
FATAL:  not enough shared memory for data structure "shmInvalBuffer" 
(67224 bytes requested)

On the other hand, when I bumped max_predicate_locks_per_transaction to 
100, I got:

LOG:  shmemsize 3153112
LOG:  actual 2339864

Which is a pretty big overestimate, percentage-wise. Taking 
RWConflictPool into account in PredicateLockShmemSize() fixes the 
underestimate, but makes the overestimate correspondingly larger. I've 
never compared the actual and estimated shmem sizes of other parts of 
the backend, so I'm not sure how large discrepancies we usually have, 
but that seems quite big.

   Heikki Linnakangas

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