Re: 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

On 12/3/2004 3:32 PM, Woodchuck Bill wrote:

> jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com ("Joshua D. Drake") wrote in
> news:41B0C39E(dot)9090804(at)commandprompt(dot)com:
>
>>
>>> So the current state of affairs is that we have the gated, official
>>> pgsql.* newsgroups, and the comp.* stuff is not gated in either
>>> direction?
>
> Yes.
>
>>> If that's the case, there should be a weekly/monthly reminder posting
>>> on the comp.* side set up, pointing out that these are not official
>>> groups and that real PostgreSQL questions are better asked somewhere
>>> else, if the intention is to reach real developers and get real help.
>>> I don't want to see people wasting a lot of time or getting confused
>>> because they found the wrong newsgroups first.
>
> Why would the comp.* group be the *wrong* group? Just an additional
> resource. The proponent said that he would post weekly pointers about the
> pgsql.* hierarchy to the comp.* group, but expecting him to post something
> negative about the comp.* group is asking too much of him. This group is
> not meant to be a competing resource..it is just another channel, and
> another plug for the open-source community. Stop treating it like a bad
> thing.
>
> You are insulting non-developer advanced pgsql.* users that would be using
> the comp.* group by inferring that only the developers are capable of
> answering questions. Do the Oracle developers, or MSsql developers
> participate in the respective comp.* groups for their products? Most
> probably not. Are those newsgroups extremely useful resources for users of
> those products? Very much so.

I didn't say that only developers are capable of that.

Since the mailing list to comp.databases.postgresql.general gating was
stopped over a week ago, there has been zero communication on that
newsgroup. I guess, that currently all of the developers and advanced
users are either on the mailing list or using the pgsql.* groups.

And since there are no forums at all where you have direct access to
Oracle or MSSql developers, this isn't exactly what I call a good
example. Would they still be that usefull if like in our case all
developers, experienced dba's and advanced users would be on oracle.* or
microsoft.* groups already?

So how exactly do you think that big number of non-developer advanced
PostgreSQL users will populate the comp.* groups? I don't see them there
right now, and without them the comp.* groups are the *wrong* groups
because you will not get answers to questions there.

Jan

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