Re: Log rotation

From: Fernando Nasser <fnasser(at)redhat(dot)com>
To: Bruno Wolff III <bruno(at)wolff(dot)to>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Log rotation
Date: 2004-03-13 15:25:12
Message-ID: 405327D8.70201@redhat.com
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Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 15:19:29 -0500,
> Fernando Nasser <fnasser(at)redhat(dot)com> wrote:
>
>>Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>>
>>>I can see their problem with making a dependency to all of apache or
>>>including
>>>multilog in their distribution. But they probably could include something
>>>that is only a logger either using some project that is only a logger or
>>>splitting out the logger that is bundled with apache. Then it wouldn't
>>>be unreasonable to make a dependency for postgres requiring that logging
>>>rpm. Other services could also make use of this logging package as well.
>>>
>>
>>Yes that would be nice. I have no idea how difficult it would be to
>>extricate the logrotate program from Apache. I also don't know if there
>>would be any license restrictions, would we be able to redistribute it as
>>an independently package? I don't know the answer.
>
>
> I was suggesting this as something a distro maintainer (such as Redhat)
> could do. I think that the postgres developers shouldn't be spending
> time doing this. They should be just suggesting some possibilities
> in the admin part of the documentation.
>

The distro maintainers should only pack proven solutions created by the
community. When they add man power to a project they must do it in the
community process, not in house.

A decent logging mechanism (that allows log rotation) is important to
postgres and should not require one to depend on a distro. They should
be able to get it from pgsql land.

It would be nice if there was a community recommended and community
tested logging solution, even if the instructions to set it up required
one to download and install some apache package.

But adding prodution quality logging to PostgreSQL is still a postgresql
community TODO and should not be delegated to the distros and thus
restricted to a distro only.

Regards,
Fernando

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