Re: postgresql with SuSE 8.0

From: Art Fore <afore(at)sonic(dot)net>
To: pgsql-novice(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: postgresql with SuSE 8.0
Date: 2003-01-28 17:54:22
Message-ID: 3E36C3CE.9060903@sonic.net
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I installed postgresql on SuSE 8.1 at work and thanks to your email, it
went as you said. I had searched the SuSE database but found nothing.
Suggest you send your mini-howto to feedback(at)suse(dot)com and have them put
it in the database.

Art

Tegge, Bernd wrote:
> At 14:25 27.01.2003 -0800, Art Fore wrote:
>
>> Well, I am no fan of MS SQL, but as I mentioned, it was pretty easy to
>> install a few years ago, about 4 I think. Maybe Red Hat does makes it
>> easier, but SuSE sure did not. Normaly Suse does pretty good with these
>> type programs. Also, my database needs are pretty simple, parts
>> database, things like that.
>>
>> A type of flow-chart where the myriad of config files belong and a basid
>> description would really help, but I have never seen that. MySQL was
>> easier to install and configure, but it does not have stored views as
>> Postgresql.
>
>
> Well, I haven't used 8.0, but I just installed SuSE 8.1.
> Basically, I did the following:
> - Install at least packages postgresql, postgresql-libs and
> postgresql-server
> - Use the yast2 /etc/sysconfig editor to set your data dir and any
> postmaster
> opts ( like -i ). You can find them under Base-Applications/Postgres.
> - Use the Yast2 Runlevel editor to specify at which runlevels the
> postmaster
> should be started ( typically just 5 )
> You can start the the server right from that form.
> - Add yourself a user account with "createuser -U postgres -d -A
> <username>"
> and a database "createdb mydb"
> That took about 5 minutes.
>
>
>> Art
>>
>> On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 12:17, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> > Art,
>> >
>> > > I don't understand why it has to be so difficult to setup a
>> postgresql
>> > > database.
>> >
>> > Frankly, most of us didn't find it difficult, even the first time.
>> For that
>> > matter, RH 8.0's RPMs take care of a lot of this initial
>> configuration stuff
>> > for you; I'm not sure why SuSE's don't.
>> >
>> > I thought Oracle was bad, but postgresql is worse. (Oracle is
>> > > also pretty bad in install and setup in Windows in addition to being
>> > > more bloatware than SQLServer.) A few years ago, I installed setup
>> a MS
>> > > SQLServer7 and transfered data from Access into it in an hour. I
>> am no
>> > > database expert, but have worked with various databases.
>> >
>> > Tell me that again, after you set up MS SQL *this* year. I've set up
>> > multiple MSSQL servers and PostgreSQL servers; Postgres is in my
>> opinion much
>> > easier, particularly if your MSSQL requires any special
>> authentication, which
>> > can take *hours* to troubleshoot on Win2k/Nt. Let alone the number of
>> > on-install options for MSSQL (like sort order) that require you to
>> *re-format
>> > the partition* and start over if you pick the wrong option. Or for
>> fun, why
>> > don't you try changing the host name of an MSSQL server? I
>> double-dog dare
>> > ya.
>> >
>> > > The
>> > > documentation leaves a lot to be desired. There needs to be a basic
>> > > setup and install procedure that non-database experts can
>> understand and
>> > > follow without researching everything.
>> >
>> > Tell you what, Art: You pay my company the cost of one MS SQL Server
>> > Enterprise license ($9995, last I checked). I will hire a good
>> technical
>> > writer and create comprehensive documentation on every single
>> variation of
>> > installing PostgreSQL and troubleshooting all common problems
>> reported on the
>> > lists, and post it on www.PostgreSQL.org. Deal?
>>
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