Re: pg_stat_bgwriter.buffers_backend is pretty meaningless (and more?)

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>
Cc: Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us, vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com, lukas(at)fittl(dot)com, alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org, magnus(at)hagander(dot)net, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com, m(dot)sakrejda(at)gmail(dot)com
Subject: Re: pg_stat_bgwriter.buffers_backend is pretty meaningless (and more?)
Date: 2023-03-09 19:43:01
Message-ID: 20230309194301.mjdddcoswgr6xoxa@awork3.anarazel.de
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Hi,

On 2023-03-09 06:51:31 -0600, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 10:18:44AM -0800, Andres Freund wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 2023-03-06 15:21:14 -0500, Melanie Plageman wrote:
> > > Good point. Attached is what you suggested. I committed the transaction
> > > before the drop table so that the statistics would be visible when we
> > > queried pg_stat_io.
> >
> > Pushed, thanks for the report, analysis and fix, Tom, Horiguchi-san, Melanie.
>
> There's a 2nd portion of the test that's still flapping, at least on
> cirrusci.
>
> The issue that Tom mentioned is at:
> SELECT :io_sum_shared_after_writes > :io_sum_shared_before_writes;
>
> But what I've seen on cirrusci is at:
> SELECT :io_sum_shared_after_writes > :io_sum_shared_before_writes;

Seems you meant to copy a different line for Tom's (s/writes/redas/)?

> https://api.cirrus-ci.com/v1/artifact/task/6701069548388352/log/src/test/recovery/tmp_check/regression.diffs

Hm. I guess the explanation here is that the buffers were already all written
out by another backend. Which is made more likely by your patch.

I found a few more occurances and chatted with Melanie. Melanie will come up
with a fix I think.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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