Re: why can't a table be part of the same publication as its schema

From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Subject: Re: why can't a table be part of the same publication as its schema
Date: 2022-09-21 14:24:22
Message-ID: 20220921142422.3geaqus4ebuwtew2@alvherre.pgsql
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On 2022-Sep-20, Robert Haas wrote:

> > I don't think we should change this behavior that's already in logical
> > replication. While I understand the reasons why "GRANT ... ALL TABLES IN
> > SCHEMA" has a different behavior (i.e. it's not applied to future
> > objects) and do not advocate to change it, I have personally been
> > affected where I thought a permission would be applied to all future
> > objects, only to discover otherwise. I believe it's more intuitive to
> > think that "ALL" applies to "everything, always."
>
> Nah, there's room for multiple behaviors here. It's reasonable to want
> to add all the tables currently in the schema to a publication (or
> grant permissions on them) and it's reasonable to want to include all
> current and future tables in the schema in a publication (or grant
> permissions on them) too. The reason I don't like the ALL TABLES IN
> SCHEMA syntax is that it sounds like the former, but actually is the
> latter. Based on your link to the email from Tom, I understand now the
> reason why it's like that, but it's still counterintuitive to me.

I already proposed elsewhere that we remove the ALL keyword from there,
which I think serves to reduce confusion (in particular it's no longer
parallel to the GRANT one). As in the attached.

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Álvaro Herrera Breisgau, Deutschland — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
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