|From:||Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>|
|To:||Fabien COELHO <coelho(at)cri(dot)ensmp(dot)fr>|
|Subject:||Re: pgbench: option delaying queries till connections establishment?|
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On 2020-02-29 15:29:19 +0100, Fabien COELHO wrote:
> Pgbench is more or less designed to run a long hopefully steady-state
> benchmark, so that the initial connection setup is always negligeable. Not
> complying with this hypothesis quite often leads to weird results.
I don't think this is a good starting point. Sure, a longer run will
yield more precise results, and one needs more than just an
instantaneous measurement. But in a lot of cases we want to use pgbench
to measure a lot of different variations, making it infeasible for each
run to be all that long.
Of course whether that's feasible depends on the workload (e.g. readonly
runs can be shorter than read/write runs).
Also note that in the case that made me look at this, you'd have to run
the test for *weeks* to drown out the performance difference that's
solely caused by difference in how long individual connects are
established. Partially because the "excluding connection establishing"
number is entirely broken, but also because fewer connections having
been established changes the performance so much.
I think we should also consider making pgbench actually use non-blocking
connection establishment. It seems pretty weird that that's the one
libpq operation where we don't? In particular for -C, with -c > -j,
that makes the results pretty meaningless.
> Adding a synchronization barrier should be simple enough, I thought about it
> in the past.
> However, I'd still be wary that it is no silver bullet: if you start a lot
> of threads compared to the number of available cores, pgbench would
> basically overload the system, and you would experience a lot of waiting
> time which reflects that the client code has not got enough cpu time.
> Basically you would be testing the OS process/thread management performance.
Sure, that's possible. But I don't see what that has to do with the
Also, most scripts actually have client/server interaction...
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