Re: PATCH: logical_work_mem and logical streaming of large in-progress transactions

From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PATCH: logical_work_mem and logical streaming of large in-progress transactions
Date: 2019-09-29 17:30:44
Message-ID: 20190929173044.GA32051@alvherre.pgsql
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On 2019-Sep-29, Amit Kapila wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:39 AM Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:

> > So that's what I did in the attached patch - I've renamed the GUC to
> > logical_decoding_work_mem, detached it from m_w_m and set the default to
> > 64MB (i.e. the same default as m_w_m).
>
> Fair enough, let's not argue more on this unless someone else wants to
> share his opinion.

I just read this part of the conversation and I agree that having a
separate GUC with its own value independent from other GUCs is a good
solution. Tying it to m_w_m seemed reasonable, but it's true that
people frequently set m_w_m very high, and it would be undesirable to
propagate that value to logical decoding memory usage.

I wonder what would constitute good advice on how to set this value, I
mean what is the metric that the user needs to be thinking about. Is
it the total of memory required to keep all concurrent write transactions
in memory? (Quick example: if you do 2048 wTPS and each transaction
lasts 1s, and each transaction does 1kB of logically-decoded changes,
then ~2MB are sufficient for the average case. Is that correct? I
*think* that full-page images do not count, correct? With these things
in mind users could go through pg_waldump output and figure out what to
set the value to.)

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Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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