| From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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| To: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi(dot)haribabu(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS) |
| Date: | 2019-07-25 18:33:57 |
| Message-ID: | 20190725183357.ibn4wnr4j6rhraf3@momjian.us |
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 01:59:41PM +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:04:36PM +0200, Antonin Houska wrote:
> > We can guarantee integrity and authenticity of backup, but that's a separate
> > feature: someone may need this although it's o.k. for him to run the cluster
> > unencrypted.
> Yes, I do agree with that. I think attempts to guarantee data authenticity
> and/or integrity at the page level is mostly futile (replay attacks are an
> example of why). IMHO we should consider that to be outside the threat
> model TDE is expected to address.
Yes, I think we can say that checksums _help_ detect unauthorized
database changes, and usually detects database corruption, but it isn't
a fully secure solution.
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