Re: Early locking option to parallel backup

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Lucas <lucas75(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Early locking option to parallel backup
Date: 2017-11-05 23:09:18
Message-ID: 20171105230918.whtj3dur2ns2zolu@alap3.anarazel.de
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On 2017-11-05 17:38:39 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Lucas <lucas75(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > The patch creates a "--lock-early" option which will make pg_dump to issue
> > shared locks on all tables on the backup TOC on each parallel worker start.
> > That way, the backup has a very small chance of failing. When it does,
> > happen in the first few seconds of the backup job. My backup scripts (not
> > included here) are aware of that and retries the backup in case of failure.
>
> I wonder why we don't do this already ... and by default.

Well, the current approach afaics requires #relations * 2 locks, whereas
acquiring them in every worker would scale that with the number of
workers. IIUC the problem here is that even though a lock is already
held by the main backend an independent locker's request will prevent
the on-demand lock by the dump worker from being granted. It seems to
me the correct fix here would be to somehow avoid the fairness logic in
the parallel dump case - although I don't quite know how to best do so.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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