Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 new setting "cluster name" and logging

From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Evan Rempel <erempel(at)uvic(dot)ca>, "pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 new setting "cluster name" and logging
Date: 2016-10-18 18:38:52
Message-ID: 20161018183852.3grybpr3qbyyho33@alvherre.pgsql
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Robert Haas wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> wrote:
> > I'm with Thomas on this and I disagree that the "csvlog bloat" argument
> > has merit. If we're worried about bloat in csv then we should provide a
> > way for users to control what goes into the csvlog, not argue that
> > something which is clearly useful be excluded.
>
> I agree, but I think if we do that it would be highly desirable do
> something to make the format discoverable. For example, at the
> beginning of each file and whenever the format changes, we write some
> kind of unmistakable header line into the file identifying what fields
> will be present on each line thereafter. It's undesirable for log
> analysis tools to need to contain logic that tries (imperfectly, no
> doubt) to reverse-engineer the field list.

Hmm, I wouldn't use the same file for different formats. If the format
is changed, a different file should be used.

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Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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