Re: Poor Yum User Download Experience

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Poor Yum User Download Experience
Date: 2010-06-30 02:15:56
Message-ID: 201006300215.o5U2Fus20521@momjian.us
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FYI, all the problems I reported below still exist. However, I am
wondering how much I, as a community member, am supposed to care about
user download experience that is not controlled by the community, so I
am going to wait for actual download users to complain.

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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> As part of the mistaken debug/assert 8.4.4 RPM build, I started looking
> at the user experience of downloading these packages, and found the
> experience to be very poor.
>
> >From our download page, http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux#yum, I
> clicked on "PostgreSQL Yum repository".
>
> That points to a moved link that tells you to go to:
>
> https://public.commandprompt.com/projects/pgcore/wiki
>
> On that page, under "Configure Yum", you are supposed to click on "1.
> Yum", which didn't seem obvious to me.
>
> Then, once there, you see:
>
> Letter P
>
> Packages beginning with letter "P".
>
> * pgdg-centos - PostgreSQL 9.0.X PGDG RPMs for CentOS - Yum Repository Configuration
> * pgdg-fedora - PostgreSQL 9.0.X PGDG RPMs for Fedora - Yum Repository Configuration
> * pgdg-redhat - PostgreSQL 9.0.X PGDG RPMs for RHEL - Yum Repository Configuration
>
> What kind of title is "Letter P"? And all these downloads are marked as
> 9.0.X.
>
> Then, once you click on one, it seems fine, though has improved since
> yesterday after I complained to Josh Drake about a directory listing
> that was confusing.
>
> Back on the Yum download page there is a "Direct Download" section,
> which points to:
>
> https://public.commandprompt.com/projects/pgcore/wiki/Direct_download
>
> which shows:
>
> 8.4 - New release. Test before you upgrade.
>
> Which obviously is inaccurate because 8.4 has been out for many months now.
>
> The bottom line is that almost every page shows a laziness and
> sloppiness that makes the community look bad. Contrast this with
> Devrim's RPM repository, which is easy to understand:
>
> http://yum.pgrpms.org/
>
> Are there any other off-site download experiences as bad as the Yum one
> we link to now?
>
> --
> Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> http://momjian.us
> EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com
>
> + None of us is going to be here forever. +
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