Re: psql questions: SQL, progname, copyright dates

I talked to Greg via chat and it looks like '&' is the best choice for
adding system object display:

\d& shows system stuff
\df& shows system functions
etc.

Greg is going to work on a patch for 8.1.

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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
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> > Greg Stark wrote:
> > > Well there's always \dtS and \dvS I don't see why typing \dfS is any harder.
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> > > It would be nice for this to be more visible in the documentation and the \?
> > > output though. I've only just found it after months of pulling hair out
> > > looking for something just like it
> >
> > Robert Treat replied:
> > > Wow you're not kidding. I've been using postgresql for I don't know how
> > > many years and I don't think I'd ever noticed that before. ISTM that we
> > > can make \df return only user function and \dfS return the system
> > > functions, and this would be consitant with how we handle other options.
> > > Just make sure to reword \? out put to make it clear that adding S will
> > > show system objects.
> >
> > So it seems there are two possible solutions to the problem of segregating
> > user and system objects: change the order by or change the backslash operators.
> > I like the latter way, as it seems consistent with what we already are doing
> > (e.g. \dt \di) How about if we change the rest of the \d operators that support
> > custom objects to support the "S" option? I would affect the following:
> >
> > \da \dc \dd \df \do \dT
> >
> > I would rewrite the \? docs to make this more clear as well.
>
> Agreed it would be nice to more clearly distingush user functions from
> system ones, but how? I can't see how 'S' is going to help us because
> \dS already shows system tables. Would it be \dfS? What is the logic
> to that? Having 'S' be a flag and a command is too confusing.
>
> And what about \dn. Seems showing system schemas vs ordinary schemas
> would make sense too. I wonder if just telling to people focus on the
> schema name is the best bet.
>
> Another idea is to add a flag to skip system stuff like '-', so \df-
> doesn't show system stuff. Same for the others. That does make sense
> to me. I know it isn't logical for \d but \d is for storage, while the
> others are different in that system tables aren't normally accessed by
> users, while system functions/schemas are.
>
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