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Re: Unsupported 3rd-party solutions (Was: Few questions

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Csaba Nagy <nagy(at)ecircle-ag(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>,Thomas Hallgren <thhal(at)mailblocks(dot)com>,Postgres general mailing list <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Unsupported 3rd-party solutions (Was: Few questions
Date: 2004-08-23 15:59:33
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As Tom (I believe) has stated, and both Bruce/I have said over and over 
again ... this is nothing stop'ng a group of ppl starting up a "bundled 
postgresql" project, and dedicating their time and effort into building 
something up ...

As Peter has stated, he had thought of this in the past, and felt it was 
easier/better for the various OS distributions to do it on their own ...

In fact, Linux and FreeBSD *both* already deal with this in their 
RPM/ports collections ... and, in fact, on the FreeBSD side, smaller is 
better then larger, so that packager maintainers don't hvae to download a 
12Meg file to get a 1Meg port out of it ...

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Csaba Nagy wrote:

> Hi all,
> Bruce, if postgres is not a company and so on, why don't you open up the
> core development team to include some of the contributors who would like
> to include their product in the main distribution, and have a bundled
> product ? Cause a good data base is definitely not made up just by the
> core, but all the rest too. And I'm sure that there are many people out
> there who would use a PL/Java if they would find it in the main
> distribution, and that's all you have to do for this to happen: include
> it. Users of postgres are busy too, and some of them will never notice
> what they are missing.
> Now it's very clear to me that if all the extensions would be bundled,
> it would be too much, and that there's no "commitee" to steer what
> should go in or out... but then maybe a vote would help ? If the
> contributor wants it in the core, a vote of the interested would be
> quite relevant.
> <joke>
> Or write a plugin manager like of the better Java IDEs, to automatically
> search/select/download/install plugins for your currently running
> version ;-)
> </joke>
> Cheers,
> Csaba.
>>> Again, I'm not trying to offload work from the contributors onto the
>>> members of core. This is about how things are perceived by the
>>> PostgreSQL customers. Of course the contributors must continue to
>>> support their products. If they don't, I'd expect the "supported" status
>>> to be dropped at some point.
>> I think you want us to look more like a MySQL AB or Oracle company where
>> things are more bundled and blessed.  It isn't going to happen with us
>> because we aren't a company, don't make money, and don't control anyone.
>> This reminds me of the MySQL migration guy who didn't want to use a 3rd
>> party replicaiton solution.  I really wanted to say he might be happier
>> with MySQL.
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