Re: Time to work on Press Release 8.0

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com>, Dan Langille <dan(at)langille(dot)org>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Time to work on Press Release 8.0
Date: 2004-08-13 14:26:49
Message-ID: 20040813111652.R4756@ganymede.hub.org
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Jan Wieck wrote:
>>
>>> Every time PostgreSQL is discussed, be that slashdot or LWN or other
>>> forums or even interviews with any of out competitors, the statement is
>>> "doesn't have replication". If we avoid the topic in our 8.0 press
>>> release and leave out the word replication, instead of pointing to the
>>> reasons why it is *better not to have replication builtin*, we will
>>> lose. People will read the press release, don't see the word
>>> replication, so "No Replication - checkmark".
>>
>> Except that "Have Replication" to those claiming 'No Replicatin' means
>> "Integrated with the Server", we still don't *have* Replication in their
>> minds, no matter how many external projects that do it we mention ;(
>
> Both Joshua Drake and Marc sell commercial replication solutions. Do
> you think it is fair of the community to mention BSD-licensed
> replication solutions in our press release while not mentioning
> commercial ones?

Neither Joshua or I are advocating mentioning either of our replication
solutions ... that is not (or at least not for us) the discussion ... the
discussion is whether or not it is appropriate to highlight a 3rd party
add on (which is what Slony is) as part of *our* Release Announcement ...

For those that are advocating in favor of this, to try and quell the 'we
do not have replication' proponents, that isn't going to work since Slony
is *still* an Add-On, and is not integrated.

And, for those that are wondering about putting it into contrib, that
doesn't make it any less of an Add-On in those ppls minds ...

... so we aren't buying anything, and, again, we are reducing the focus on
what we *do* include (NT, PITR, native Win32, etc) ...

The PR should be focusing on *our* features ... that which comes with
*our* distribution ... not on something someone else wrote that works with
PostgreSQL ...

But, as one person has mentioned in this thread, as an attempt at a voice
of sanity ... maybe we should just let this drop, and see how the PR
fleshes out ... maybe we *don't* have enough in this release to do a
strong Press Release, and need to mentioned add-on stuff to make it big
enough to be picked up by the press *shrug*

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