Re: Two Phase Commit WAS: Re: Two weeks to feature freeze

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Two Phase Commit WAS: Re: Two weeks to feature freeze
Date: 2003-06-23 16:37:51
Message-ID: 200306231637.h5NGbpN11995@candle.pha.pa.us
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Agreed.

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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Tom,
>
> > No. I want to know what the subordinate does when it's promised to
> > commit and the co-ordinator never responds. AFAICS the subordinate
> > is screwed --- it can't commit, and it can't abort, and it can't expect
> > to make progress indefinitely on other work while it's holding locks
> > for the not-quite-committed transaction.
>
> AFAIK, MS SQL Server's two-phase commit works like this ... if both servers
> prepare, and one crashes, the transaction is screwed up. Somewhat unreliable
> considering the frequence with which MSSQL crashes, yet it seems to be good
> enough for several companies to sell "solutions" based on it. (performance is
> also appalling, but that's a different issue)
>
> Anybody have a grasp of Oracle internals for 2PC?
>
> Anyway, I would vote for a first implemenation for 2PC which addressed the
> commit-then-crash issue in some expedient-but-not-reliable way, and putting
> 2PC in /contrib with a "not for production use" warning. Some people will
> use it in production anyway, and hopefully one or more of them will put in
> the dozens of hours required to make it reliable.
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
>
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