Re: WIP: CoC

From: Bret Stern <bret_stern(at)machinemanagement(dot)com>
To: Regina Obe <lr(at)pcorp(dot)us>
Cc: "'James Keener'" <jim(at)jimkeener(dot)com>, "'Psql_General (E-mail)'" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: WIP: CoC
Date: 2016-01-12 16:00:39
Message-ID: 1452614439.3021.5.camel@centos65.machinemanagement.com
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On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 09:07 -0500, Regina Obe wrote:

> > If the attacker goes public, we point people at the exchange that happened where Tom has presumably already discussed the reasons that the patch/feature/&c isn't being accepted.
>
> If someone wanted to out someone, they would study them carefully. They would find Tom's buttons and push them.
> They will show proof of Tom saying fuck you trans thing (probably something worse) and all that and it would be a bad reflection on Tom and our community.
> It's because they don't have a Coc that Tom is such a jerk. They let the power get to his head.
> They would have proof is my point in an email trail.
>
> Luckily I think Tom doesn't have many visible buttons to push, but others in our community do.
> Anyrate I think it's looking more like a Coc will hurt us more than do us good. This is beginning to feel too much like Highschool Lincoln-douglass debating which I never enjoyed.
> I just want to get back to programming something useful.
>

Amen.

>
> > I don't think I understand your point. So I get 100 friends to come here and ask for Tom to be outed, we ask for the reason and when they don't produce a valid one, nothing happens because none of us have any power.
> They will ask, they'll point at a random link. Like this one -
> https://twitter.com/krainboltgreene/status/611569515315507200
>
> You'll be too lazy to read it and assume they read it and they are right. Tom will be persecuted for some link everyone was too lazy to read.
> News of Tom's jerkiness would spread across the internet like a virus.
> The jerk think would be echoed by everyone until everyone believes it and takes it to heart. "Tom is a big jerk. How can the PostgreSQL project allow such a jerk to be running the show."
> Tom will feel bad and think - "No good deed goes unpunished", he'll step down.
>
> THE END
>
>
> Thanks,
> Regina
>

In that vein..Being the insensitive MF that I am, I don't care what Tom
says. Toms value (in the list) is his commitment to
the project and (for me) the last word on most topics..even if he is a
liberal sob.
Feel the love,
Bret Stern

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